iolinked / Stormwater & the pipe — 73 Melksham Drive Evidence
Stormwater risk & consent dossier · Churton Park, Wellington

The pipe, the water, and the risk to the property below

A pipe doesn't make the hill's stormwater go away. It takes the same water and gives it a more dangerous shape — concentrated, faster, and aimed at the property below. This page sets out, from physics and from the records, why a forced piped discharge raises the flood and slope-failure risk to 73 Melksham Drive — and makes one fair request: everyone who benefits should share the job of finishing it properly, or the pipe should be removed and the water left to flow naturally.

The short version. Rain and runoff from the slope and the reserve collect and run down a shared right-of-way. The council's recorded design carries that water as a broad open channel into a public sump at the bottom. At some point an uphill household laid a private pipe under the accessway to gather that flow. At first the pipe discharged onto the road; then, to get the water off the road, an uphill neighbour dug a channel — without the agreement of the two downhill owners — so the discharge now runs toward the sump beside this property. The road problem went away, and with it most of the interest in finishing the job. What's left is a half-done, concentrated discharge aimed at the lowest section, roughly 20 metres short of the sump — and one downhill owner carrying the risk while everyone who benefits has moved on.

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What is actually at stake
Water that arrives concentrated and then sits in the soil does two things over time: it scours a channel where it lands, and it weakens the ground that holds the slope up. On a steep Churton Park section that has recently been cleared of deep-rooted gorse, that is a credible path to erosion, slumping, and collapse of the landform below and around the house — not just a puddle on a wet day.
heavy rainfall on the whole catchment ≈ 20 m open ground Hill catchment + reserve Private pipeunder the accessway Concentrated discharge crosses open ground —scours & saturates the slope Council sumpflow should enter here Dwelling (73) private pipe (existing) concentrated discharge ponding / saturation council sump (public)
Fig. 0 — What happens in heavy rain. Rain on the whole catchment is gathered into one pipe and released about 20 m short of the council sump, so a single concentrated flow has to cross open ground — scouring and saturating the slope above the downhill dwelling instead of dropping cleanly into the sump. (Motion pauses if your device prefers reduced motion.)
A · The situation

00Why this matters

This is a downhill house at the bottom of a steep catchment. When water is mismanaged uphill, the lowest property is where it ends up — and the consequences are not abstract:

How we got here

The dispute makes more sense as a sequence of events than as a set of fixed positions:

Natural runoff water comes off thehill & reserve, as always Private pipe laid an uphill household pipesthe flow under the accessway Onto the road pipe discharges onto theroad — uphill upset Channel dug re-routed toward the sump,no downhill owners' say Road cleared downhill owner nowcarries the risk alone
Fig. 0b — The sequence. The water was put off the road by pushing it toward the lowest property — which solved the visible problem and left the hidden one with the owner below.
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A fair starting point
The downhill owner has never disputed that some water naturally comes off the hill, and has spent his own time and money managing the separate open flow that comes from the back of the property. The objection is narrow and specific: a forced, concentrated pipe discharge, and an open trench dug across private land, both raise risk rather than reduce it.

01The site, in one picture

The lay of the land decides everything here. Ground falls from about RL 106 m at the top of the catchment to roughly RL 99.7 m at the road and sump — a steep, funnelled drop. The council's surveyed records show the drainage that was designed for it.

106 104 102 100 RL (m) private pipe — ends short scruffy dome TOC RL 101.53 invert out RL 99.68 ≈ 20 m catchment accessway pipe outlet road / sump 73
Fig. 1 — Measured long-section (from the surveyed plan). Levels taken with a robotic total station; underground services plotted from council records. The consented system is an open channel to the scruffy dome (top of concrete RL 101.53, invert out RL 99.68). The private pipe stops about 20 m short of it, so the flow has to find its own way across the ground in between.
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Key terms, once
Sump / scruffy dome: a council stormwater inlet — a chamber with a domed grate that takes surface water and drops it into the piped network below. Open channel: a shallow surface drain that carries water broadly and slowly. Right-of-way easement: a registered right to cross someone's land for access — not, by itself, a right to build drainage in it.
B · The physics — why a pipe is more dangerous, not less

02Same water, a more dangerous shape

Start from something nobody can argue with: water is conserved. A pipe is not a drain in the sense of "making water disappear" — it is a router. Whatever rain lands on the catchment has to go somewhere whether the pipe exists or not. So the pipe cannot reduce the amount of water arriving at the bottom. What it changes is the three things that decide whether water is harmless or harmful: how concentrated it is, how fast it moves, and where it is aimed.

The unlock
A pipe doesn't remove the water — it removes the spreading-out. Take a wide, shallow, slow sheet of water and force it through one opening, and you get a narrow, deep, fast jet. Same litres per second; a completely different amount of damage per litre.
Open channel — as designed wide · shallow · slow low velocity → low erosive force Forced through a pipe narrow · deep · fast high velocity → high erosive force bed shear stress τ = ρ·g·R·S · erosive / transport power rises with velocity (≈ v² to v³)
Fig. 2 — Diffuse vs concentrated flow. The erosive force a flow can exert climbs steeply with its velocity. Concentrating a given flow into a jet is the fastest way to multiply that force — which is why the channel was designed wide and shallow in the first place.

This is why the engineering instinct in stormwater is almost always to spread water out and slow it down, never to gather it into a single hard point unless that point is a properly built, energy-dissipating structure that connects straight into the network. A pipe mouth firing onto bare soil is the opposite of that.

03Concentrated flow cuts and scours

Give a fast, concentrated flow somewhere soft to land and it does what fast water always does: it picks up soil and carries it away. The pipe here discharges short of the sump onto open ground, so the jet lands on soil, not into a chamber. The result is already visible — a scour channel cutting along the verge, bare eroded ground, and the tell-tale moss and permanent wet of a surface that never dries out.

jet hitsbare soil scour holeforms gullylengthens undermines + loads slopesediment + water
Fig. 3 — How a point discharge eats a slope. Each stage is photographed in the evidence below: the impact zone, the channel it has cut, and the saturated, moss-covered ground around it.

04Water that sits: how soil quietly loses its strength

The most serious risk is the slowest one. Soil on a slope holds together because of friction between its grains and the "glue" of cohesion — and, where there is vegetation, the reinforcement of living roots. Water attacks all three.

When water soaks in and the ground saturates, the pressure of water in the gaps between grains (the pore pressure) rises. That pressure pushes the grains apart and carries part of the load that the grains used to carry themselves. Engineers call what's left the effective stress — and it is the effective stress, not the total weight, that gives soil its strength:

weight rising water table → pore pressure u ↑ effective stress σ' = σ − u shear strength τ = c'+cᵣ + σ'·tanφ' u ↑ ⇒ σ' ↓ ⇒ τ ↓ clear gorse ⇒ cᵣ → 0
Fig. 4 — The strength of a slope, and the two ways this situation lowers it. Adding water raises pore pressure u, which lowers effective stress σ' and therefore shear strength τ. Removing deep-rooted gorse removes the root-cohesion term cᵣ. Both push the factor of safety down — at the same time.

In plain terms: wet soil is weaker soil, and roots were holding this slope together. Clearing the gorse was reasonable tidying-up — but it removed a hidden reinforcement, and it is exactly the wrong moment to also start loading the ground with concentrated water. This is the mechanism behind the worry that "the soil gets weak, then it erodes, then the landscape collapses." It isn't dramatic language; it's the ordinary failure path for saturated, de-vegetated fill slopes.

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Why "it's been fine so far" is not reassurance
Slope failure is a threshold behaviour, not a gradual one. Ground can shed water for years and then fail in a single wet spell once the factor of safety crosses 1.0. The absence of a collapse yet says nothing about the risk being carried.

05A pipe doesn't mean "less water"

The central claim from uphill is that removing the pipe would send more uncontrolled water down. Here is the careful answer: the total volume of water is set by the rain and the catchment, and is the same either way. What a pipe changes is the timing — it delivers that volume faster, so the peak flow at the bottom is higher and sharper. Higher peak, on a point discharge, is the damaging part.

time → flow rate open channel: low, broad peak pipe: high, sharp peak area under each curve (total volume) is the same
Fig. 5 — Same water, different peak. Piping shortens the time it takes water to arrive, which raises the peak flow even though the total volume is unchanged. "More water" is the wrong worry; faster, more concentrated water is the real one — and it is the pipe that creates it.

✗ The claim

"The pipe is good — without it, even more water would flow onto your property."

✓ The physics

The volume is fixed by rain and catchment. The pipe delivers it faster and concentrated, raising the peak and the erosive force. Spreading it back out (the open channel) lowers the peak — that's why the channel was designed that way.
C · The rules

06What the council actually built (the lawful baseline)

This is the part the records settle cleanly. The surveyed topographical plan for this site — levels taken with a robotic total station, underground services plotted from council records — labels the council system here, in writing, as a "STORMWATER OPEN CHANNEL" feeding a "SCRUFFY DOME" (the surveyed sump), with measured levels:

Surveyed featureLevelWhat it means
Scruffy dome — top of concreteRL 101.53 mThe lid level of the public stormwater inlet.
Scruffy dome — invert outRL 99.68 mWhere collected water leaves into the piped network below.
Stormwater open channellabelled on planThe council's intended path: surface flow, carried broadly to the dome.

So the consented, recorded design at this location is exactly what the physics above recommends: diffuse surface flow into a sump. It was never a single concentrated pipe discharge fired across the accessway. That distinction is the whole case.

07What the records show about the pipe

Two things here are genuinely unclear and worth settling — not assuming. First, whether the pipe was ever consented: we don't actually know, and it isn't recorded against the title. Second, a claim made from uphill that Wellington Water is the client and built the pipe. Both are easy to check, and Wellington Water's own published position is a useful starting point:

"The pipes installed to serve your property are generally private and not owned or maintained by Council or Wellington Water… When private drainage is shared by more than one property, it is the responsibility of all properties that connect to the shared or common drain to work together to maintain the pipes and resolve issues."— Wellington Water, Knowing your pipes / connecting-to-networks guidance

Under the Building Act, a new connection to a public (network utility) drainage system is specifically not exempt from building consent, and the physical connection itself must be made and inspected by Wellington Water (with notice, and the excavation left open for inspection). So if the pipe were a Wellington Water asset, or an approved connection, records would exist. Rather than argue about it, the simplest thing is to ask for them:

Records that would confirm the pipe's status — any one settles it
  • [ ]A Wellington Water connection approval and inspection record for the pipe's connection to the public sump/network.
  • [ ]The pipe shown as a public asset on Wellington Water's network/GIS records — not merely "private stormwater (indicative)."
  • [ ]A building consent for the drainage work on the property file / LIM (required for any new connection to the public network).
  • [ ]A registered drainlayer's record / producer statement for the installation.

If these records exist, they tell everyone how to finish the job correctly. If they don't, the pipe is a private, shared arrangement — which points to exactly the same fair outcome set out below. Either way, the Council and Wellington Water can confirm the status from their own records.

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Said carefully, on purpose
This page makes no accusation that anyone broke the law. The pipe's consent status is simply unconfirmed — it should be checked with the Council and Wellington Water. What matters most here is not who is at fault, but that the discharge, as it runs today, is unsafe and unfinished — and that fixing it is a shared responsibility.

08The rules — and why finishing it is shared

This isn't about blame. Several independent parts of New Zealand's framework all point to the same fair outcome: the hill's water has to be managed so it doesn't damage the property below, work in a shared accessway needs everyone's agreement, and a connection to the public network has to be done properly. Read together, they make finishing the job correctly — or undoing it — a shared responsibility, not one neighbour's burden.

COMMON LAW · accept natural flow — not water collected & piped from elsewhere BUILDING CODE E1 · surface water must not damage or be a nuisance to other property PROPERTY LAW · works in a right-of-way must match the easement's registered terms WATER SERVICES · a public-network connection must be approved & made by Wellington Water RMA / REGION · diverting & discharging water may need Greater Wellington's approval
Fig. 6 — The rules that bear on the discharge. Each layer is independent, and together they explain why doing this properly is a shared responsibility — not why anyone should be blamed.
  1. Natural flow vs. concentrated discharge (common law). A lower owner must accept water that would naturally flow onto the land — that part is settled, and it is accepted here. What a lower owner is not required to absorb is water collected from a wider catchment and released in a concentrated, redirected discharge. The point of raising this isn't to threaten anyone: it's that the law has always expected concentrated water to be managed properly, which is exactly what's being asked for.
  2. Building Code, Clause E1 (Surface Water). Surface water "collected or concentrated by buildings or sitework" must be disposed of in a way that avoids the likelihood of damage or nuisance to other property — and "other property" expressly includes neighbouring land and the road. A pipe that concentrates flow and sheets it across the shared accessway is squarely what E1 is written to prevent. (See MBIE determination 2008/14 on surface-water runoff between adjacent properties.)
  3. Property Law Act 2007 — easements. A right-of-way easement is a right to cross land for access. Activities on easement land must stay within the easement's registered terms; installing a private stormwater main under a shared accessway is very unlikely to be authorised by an access easement, and would normally need the agreement of the burdened owner and the other beneficiaries.
  4. Water Services — connection rules. Connecting private pipework into the public network is not a private free-for-all: the connection must be applied for and made/inspected by Wellington Water, and unauthorised connections are not permitted.
  5. RMA / regional plan. Diverting and discharging stormwater can engage Greater Wellington's Natural Resources Plan and ss 14–15 of the Resource Management Act. Whether a consent was required here is for the regional council to assess — it is flagged, not asserted.
D · The record & the ask

09"Going in circles": the claims, answered

The neighbour conversation keeps returning to the same few points. Set side by side with the physics and the records, each has a clear answer. (Quotes are paraphrased and de-identified.)

✗ Claim

"Removing the pipe would cause more uncontrolled rainwater to flow into that area."

✓ Answer

Same catchment, same volume. The open channel was designed to carry it broadly to the sump at a low peak. The pipe raises the peak and concentrates the force — see Figs. 2 and 5.

✗ Claim

"This system was designed by Wellington Water for this purpose."

✓ Answer

What Wellington Water's records show here is an open channel + scruffy dome (Fig. 1, §06). A private pipe added under the accessway is a different thing — and one for which no approval has been produced (§07).

✗ Claim

"The real problem is debris blocking the spot / moss on the path."

✓ Answer

The moss and the permanent wet are symptoms of a discharge that keeps the ground saturated. Clearing debris doesn't change a concentrated point discharge landing short of the sump.

Encouragingly, there is already common ground: the uphill side has itself said that connecting the pipe properly to the sump is the real solution, and that the pipe isn't recorded in the title or with the council. That is most of the way to agreement — what's left is for everyone who benefits to act on it together.

10The evidence

Photographs taken on site in wet conditions. Click any image to enlarge. House interiors and building plans are deliberately excluded; these show only the drainage, the discharge area, the scour, and the slope.

Video — flow in wet conditions

Short clips taken in the rain around the discharge point and the shared accessway. (Press play; large file sizes are kept off until you do.)

Clip 1 — the pipe outlet discharging onto the bank beside the accessway.
Clip 2 — the sump (scruffy dome) and a loose pipe section on the saturated slope below the deck.
Clip 3 — the discharge zone and shared accessway, looking up the hill.
Clip 4 — close view of the dome and pipe section in saturated ground.
Clip 5 — extended walk-through of the discharge area and the eroded bank.
Clip 6 — the collection point uphill: where the works gather and channel the water before it runs down toward the discharge.
Clip 7 — the same uphill collection channel: saturated ground and standing water gathering before it is sent downhill.

11What I'm asking — finish it properly, together, or remove it

This page isn't about blame, and it isn't a demand that any one person pay for everything. It's a request to resolve a shared problem fairly — before it becomes an expensive one.

The principle. A shared drainage arrangement is the joint responsibility of everyone who benefits from it — that is Wellington Water's own position on shared private drains, and it is simple fairness. Every household uphill that the pipe keeps dry, and the two of us below, all have a stake in it being done right.

Two outcomes I can accept:

  1. Finish it properly, with shared cost. A sealed underground pipe taken straight into the sump — no open trench across private land, no discharge left short — with the cost shared by everyone who benefits, including me.
  2. Or remove the pipe and let the water flow naturally to the open channel and sump, the way the council's design intended and the way it worked before.

What I can't accept is the present state: a concentrated discharge, half-finished, redirected toward the lowest property without the downhill owners' agreement, then left alone because it no longer troubles anyone uphill.

And I'm asking the Council and Wellington Water not to step away. This is a safety and land-stability risk to a downhill home, on a shared accessway. Confirming the pipe's status, and helping the parties reach one of the two outcomes above, is squarely within your role.

The one-line summary
The same water, spread out, is what the council designed for. Forced through a pipe and left half-done, it is more dangerous — so let's finish it properly together, or remove it.

Sources & references

Authoritative, publicly available sources behind the statements above. Site-specific levels and labels are from the surveyed topographical plan held by the owner.

This page is a good-faith summary prepared by the resident to explain the risk and the consent question. It is not legal advice, and statements about consent status are subject to confirmation from Council and Wellington Water records.